Hi, I'm Ginny Koppenhol and I'm a portrait photographer and DJ from North Lancashire. At the moment I'm carrying out a personal project exploring the local electronic music scene, in the hope that it will reveal what it takes to create and sustain a dance scene within smaller cities and towns across the UK. Additionally in our scene, we've also got the proximity to Manchester and Liverpool, two huge epicentres of electronic music and its roots.

It's a good time to get a snapshot of what's happening now, and some of the themes that people involved in that scene are raising… some of the things that are challenges, some of the things that are opportunities.

Today I'm speaking to Kat. I was really lucky to catch Kat, before she went back to Australia. She’s spent some time in Morecambe and with the aim of creating a place within the UK music scene. She's a DJ and producer from Australia and loves Europe, loves the UK and wanted to explore the scene here and her place within it.
It's come with challenges but she's optimistic too and hopes to return and explore more fully what we have to offer. She has some great suggestions too about what could help a scene of our size and I think they're really brilliant ones and I that we should really listen. And she's not the only person to have commented on similar things, so that's what I love about these interviews,  seeing some of the themes that are emerging. So I hope you enjoy listening to Kat's perspective. I forgot to say that her DJ name is DJ Du Jour, and early on in the conversation, she tells us how she came upon that name.

I'm speaking to Kat today and I'm very excited. I've just caught you before you go back to Australia.

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Just for a quick pause and a reset, not permanently.

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Which I'm sure we'll talk more about. We met through a suggestion from someone that you get in touch with me for a chat. We connected on socials and then met briefly over Christmas, didn't we? And I was really glad to be able to book this conversation.

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Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Your perspective is really valuable to this project because you have been in the UK for the last six months, is that right?

Yeah.

You started your career in Australia so you'll have some really unique perspectives, about some of the opportunities and challenges of coming to an area of this size. So firstly, your DJ name is DJ Du Jour. Where does that come from?

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I started DJing when I was in my early 20s and I really wanted to have something that didn't sound like ‘DJ Kat’ and really boring. I was watching the movie ‘Hairspray’ and Queen Latifah, one of her opening lines is, “I'm your DJ Du Jour”. And I was like, “that's it!” So that's where I took it from. I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse because most people can't pronounce it, but it helps me create an alter ego as opposed to ‘Kat’. I'm two very different people when I'm behind the decks versus in normal life.

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Can you say any more about that?

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Du Jour is far more outgoing, a little bit more flirtatious, a bit louder. So there's probably a large amount of my personality coming out and I'm feeling more comfortable as that persona as opposed to who I am outside of the decks. It's probably the person I want to be in everyday life as opposed to just in that moment.

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I love that.

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And DJs by nature, I always think, are quite geeky behind the scenes. We have to be, don't we? To collect music, to get absorbed in that side of it, and the preparation before the performance.

I'm a total geek.

 

Yeah, being a geek is great. We have to go into another part of ourselves, don't we, when we're behind the decks.

Tell us about the start of your journey.

 

This year is actually my 20-year anniversary of DJing. I started when I was 26, so very much a late bloomer, but it was something that I always wanted to do.
I wasn't heavily encouraged growing up and pursuing music as a career. I was living in Sydney at the time and one thing led to another.
I was heavily ingrained in the LGBT scene in Sydney and ended up winning the 2010 ‘Mardi Gras DJ competition’ and got to play at the Mardi Gras after party, which is a big thing in Sydney.
It evolved from there, really. I started making my way through the scene.
In 2017, I decided that I would move… Well, let's take a step back… I've toured the US, I've done gigs around the West Coast and the East Coast. And then, in 2017, I moved to Melbourne and developed a position there.
And in 2023, I started coming over to Europe. I was playing in Spain. I played in Ibiza. And then in 2024, I was over here in Stockport doing a music festival at Blackthorn at White Bottom Farm. So that opened up this idea that the northern hemisphere is actually where I want to be. I've always loved travelling. I've travelled since I was young and Europe and the UK were always a place that I felt most at home as opposed to in Australia.
I made the decision last year that I would just take the leap of faith and pack up my life and move over here. And in July I did. So I've been here ever since and trying to establish myself as a DJ and an artist.
It's been interesting.

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What brought you to the Lancaster Morecambe area?

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My friends. We originally did meet in Torremolinos in 2023. When I was trying to decide whether I go to Europe or whether I come to the UK, my decision was based around having some friends that I could rely on being an English-speaking country. Even though I'm a European citizen and I speak Italian fluently, it just felt like it was the right decision at the time. So my friends have been born and bred here and this was the reason why I came here because they were here.

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Are you Italian?

Yeah I'm Italian.

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So were you born in Australia?

I was born in Australia. Both my parents are Italian.

 

Ah right, so you have links to this part of the world but the UK is obviously very different to Italy.

Yeah, very much so.

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And was that Stockport trip the first time you'd been to the UK? 

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No, I lived here in 2004, straight out of university. I moved to London and did the whole gap year before I decided what I wanted to do with my life. London was a challenge back then. I was young. I didn't really know who I was. I certainly hadn't started DJing and in hindsight I wondered why I never went to clubs or why I never saw any of the dance scene which was ridiculous. But I've travelled backwards and forwards a fair bit since then and it's the reason why I do what I do, and why I worked is to pay for my trips. I've always loved coming over to this side of the world and like I said it feels like more like home to me than Australia. I love Australia, don't get me wrong, but that has its own limitations. that just don't align with me.

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Thinking about your early experience in the dance music scene, as a clubber or as a fan or whatever word we want to use, how did that start?

 

I grew up in a small town south of Sydney called Wollongong. It's a coastal city, not too dissimilar to Newcastle here in the UK or even Liverpool. There wasn't a lot of under 18s clubs growing up. The scene in Wollongong was small, it was intimate, but they did have some good events and a few good clubs.

So I started as soon as I was old enough and I looked really young, so having fake IDs was never a possibility for me. But I would spend every weekend; Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, out in clubs and just absorbing myself into the scene.

I remember the first time I saw a female DJ behind the decks and I was like, “that's amazing, I would absolutely love to do that!”. It took me almost 10 years to have the courage to be able to pick up a set of decks and start teaching myself. That's essentially how it all started for me.

It was the mid to late 90s, hard house was a big thing so that was what I was getting absorbed into. Then in the early 2000s, it was all the piano house and Ministry of Sound, Hed Kandi and Fierce Angel - all those kind of albums that started to evolve, which was amazing for me. Defected Records is one of my favourites. So that's where I started getting immersed in the music and loving hearing that the bass lines and the beats and mainly the vocal as well.

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There's a few questions I could ask from there. But do you remember the DJ's name that you saw?

 

I'm not 100% certain. I remember just looking up and just being totally enamoured with this female DJ and going, “wow, there's a female DJ and I can do it too!”. It really set a path for me and here I am.

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It was exactly the same for me in Eden in Ibiza in 2003. Seeing Lisa Lashes behind the decks lit something in me and I thought, “why not me? I could do that!”

 

Wollongong was very isolated from the rest of the world. It was so small. The exposure that we got for female artists was low, so it just didn't even cross my mind. That's why it took me so long. It wasn't until I had moved to Sydney that I'd decided when I got my first real check from working a full-time job a few years later, “yeah, I'm going to buy a set of decks”. They were crappy ‘American Audio’ ones or something like that. I started teaching myself and it evolved from there.

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If you can learn on decks like that, then you can play on anything!
So has your style stayed in that vein, would you say? Or has it evolved or changed along the way?

 

It's changed a lot. When I first started DJing, I was playing the common commercial tracks. It was very much, not ‘fade in fade out’, there was definitely blending and mixing and beat matching and all that sort of thing. But now I've evolved where I'm now taking instrumentals from one track, acapellas from another, layering them on top of each other, you know, using three and four decks simultaneously and trying to create an energy that is sustainable. I would play the full track through and do the beat matching way back then. I think it's just evolved naturally as I've explored different techniques and styles and even genres as well. I was very traditional, not traditional, but keeping to the radio edits and that sort of thing. Whereas now I'm following more house and tech house. I think that's natural and it's important for DJs to evolve and finesse their style and their genre, how they want to play and how they want to be perceived in the world as well.

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You were talking about the introduction to the scene and whilst it was a small scene, it was significant and important for you.

What was it about clubs or that scene that drew you to it?

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That's a really good question. I think it was just convenience at the time. I’d just turned 18. It felt like the world was my oyster and coming into adulthood. Wollongong was a very small community. It's a surfer community. I think that from a dance music perspective, it was about community and it was about the relationships that you established on the dance floor and it was always the same people coming back to the same nightclubs on the same nights. I think it was more around that community vibe and seeing the same people out all the time. I'm introverted, so getting to know people was really difficult at that time. Always seeing the same people out was also helpful for me to come out of my shell a little bit. You know what I mean? That's what established it for me as well. And the music, of course, because I'd not heard it before. All of a sudden there's lights and there's smoke and there's female DJs and there's energy! It just was just an environment I'd felt like I'd found, and found my tribe.

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Yeah, a lot of people talk about that experience of finding their tribe. Like you say, the environment is key as well. It's unlike most things you'd experience day-to-day. Yeah, having that bit of escapism if you want to call it that.

 

Yeah, I think that that's perfect. Because I was so shy and introverted and it felt like I was the best version of myself when I was in a club. I felt like I was part of something that not everybody wants to be part of, and that was really special for me.

 

Going back to when you taught yourself to DJ, how were those early years?

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It was 2004 when I bought my first set of decks and then I started DJing out in clubs two years later. There was two years where I was in my bedroom, living by myself and just playing out every weekend, any opportunity that I could and I was rubbish! I remember the first few gigs that I had played in the LGBT scene in Sydney, and being told I was the worst DJ they'd ever heard. That gave me a bit more fire in my belly to actually get better. It was brutal. This is a whole other conversation is around female DJs in the scene and just the brutality of us trying to establish ourselves and get a position in clubs and be seen as legitimate DJs or legitimate artists. I think that was just naturally what had occurred, as well as being a rubbish DJ.

But I loved it. There's something about, for me, even 20 years later… I still feel the same feeling as what I did when I first stepped up on the decks. It's that feeling of euphoria and being able to create something with a crowd and connect with a crowd in a spiritual way. That has never changed for me. That's the reason why I'm still doing it, because of that feeling. To answer your question, it's the same. The only difference is I've got better skills now.

 

Has there been a time when you have lost the love for it or had a massive lack of motivation around it?

 

I think the last six months is probably where I've questioned it - more my skill set, my talent and whether I'm good enough. But that is more around the challenges that I faced from being here, when in reality it's not true It's just the story I've told myself. Otherwise, the passion has just gotten stronger and stronger. I wouldn't have packed up my life and left behind everything that I know, to fly halfway across the world to pursue something that I wasn't passionate about it.

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You mentioned about being a woman in the scene and I want to talk a little more about that, and your experiences. What do you think are the particular challenges? And do you think there are any opportunities around that?

 

It's definitely gotten better in the last couple of years. I think different countries, different scenes, look at it in different ways.
I think the UK does relatively well in trying to create that balance between female / male lineups, I think we've still got a really long way to go and that's worldwide. I don't think it's just isolated to the UK or Europe or Australia.

I think the challenges are being considered that you're a legitimate DJ, not just an influencer or, for want of a better word, a ‘pretty girl behind the decks’ just pushing buttons and turning knobs. It's about being considered legitimate and that we do have the same skill set and do have the same ability.

There's an advantage to having female artists on the roster in the sense that we look at music in a slightly different way. I'm being fairly general here, but I think that there is that emotional connection to music that we tend to tap into a little bit easier than perhaps some of our male counterparts. That's probably sometimes a missing piece when we think back to the community environments of yesteryear and our forefathers and foremothers. Going back to those roots around building community and that connection, we are probably missing that by having all male lineups and not a lot of diversity. Even from a diversity perspective, also having queer artists and those in that LGBT scene and just looking at an artist based on their skill and their talent, not just about followers and likeability or ‘lookability’ I suppose.

 

Yeah, having a whole mixture of people with different experiences and perspectives.

 

I think we've lost touch with the purpose of having lineups for the music, as opposed to ticket sales.

Interesting, especially with social media and the power of an image and a profile. I feel like the shift is happening for the better again, maybe. We're taking stock again and thinking, “okay, what just happened with social media?” It's slow though. And like you said before, the balance is still very unequal. For a while I thought it was getting a lot better, but you still look at lineups and you think, “that balance isn't there yet”.

What could be done to encourage more women into it, although that's assuming that's one of the issues? We both had an experience where we saw someone who inspired us, and that's such a key part of it, isn't it? If you see somebody who you relate to up there behind the decks…

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There's some amazing male DJs who are advocating for female equity, which is phenomenal. But I think that the challenge around advocacy for females is who's at the table - I want to say a female voice, but that could also be a male advocating for a female. Until that voice is actually invited to the table, I don't know that there's going to be significant change any time soon.

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And the same for the queer community. It’s having a whole diverse community and different voices like you say.

 

I also see it from the promoter’s point of view. They want to make the ticket sales and they want to see benefit and return of investment. So I understand it from that a business perspective but then the question is, ‘what are we doing this for?’ Are we doing a festival just to generate income and fill someone's pocket or are we doing it to create a sense of community and union with music, which is really what the purpose of music really is? I guess it just depends on the purpose, really.

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I'm optimistic. I think you can have both. if you build that strong community, people will pay for that and help it live and sustain itself.

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There's definitely festivals out there that do it and do it well. But if you're looking at some of the major festivals, you think, “what is their purpose and what's their intention behind running that festival?”

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You mentioned the difference in the scene in Australia and the UK. What are your experiences of the electronic music scene in both countries?

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If I had my time over, I would have moved here sooner. I love the scene in the UK. There's the pioneers that came from here and I feel like Australia is a little bit, not behind the times, but so isolated and so far away from the world that we miss opportunities and we miss having that real connection to music. We certainly don't have the same level of festivals that the UK have over the summer. It's absolutely phenomenal what you have here and what is on offer. I think there's different challenges associated with that in Australia that are a little bit more political, which I won't get into. But I feel like music and the dance scene is so ingrained in culture here in the UK that it's almost abnormal not to go and have conversations with people and actually talk about electronic music, whether it's from the 90s or earlier and how it's evolved. There's access to so much here that I wish that we had that same level of accessibility in Australia, to be honest.

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That links nicely to a question about Manchester. Have you visited Manchester? What are your thoughts on this huge city that's on our doorstep that has influenced a lot of people locally in the Lancaster and Morecambe scene and obviously was one of the key places to spread the house music coming from America?

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When I've managed to get into Manchester, it's been phenomenal. I don't have a car here and so I'm heavily reliant on public transport to get around and that has been a huge challenge. If I could have, I would have been out in the clubs every single night. Unfortunately, the transport system here is absolute rubbish, which has limited my ability to be able to connect with people, unless I spent the night in Manchester. Being an artist and not really having the funds to be able to splurge on a hotel room or an Uber to and from Manchester, it wasn't financially viable for me to continue to do that. Hacienda hosted DJ Paulette at Joshua Brooks. That was phenomenal. I went to see Hannah Wants also at Joshua Brooks. That was amazing. I did get the opportunity to DJ at a couple of clubs in Manchester, in the queer community over Pride weekend, which ended in a disaster.

There's so much opportunity in Manchester, but I can also see how it would place limitations on a place like Lancaster when it's so far away and so removed from a major city as well. The UK need to sort out their transport system and perhaps there's more opportunity for Lancaster.

I've gone in a few times and spent time walking around the city and trying to get absorbed into the scene, but it's just really difficult in the middle of the day as opposed to 1, 2 or 3 o’clock in the morning. If I'd had my time over, I probably would have reconsidered living in Morecambe. It's just too limiting in terms of my accessibility to everything and it’s also limited my opportunity in getting to know other DJs as well. I felt really quite trapped at times.

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Did you want to talk about the disaster of Pride?

Oh, just that Manchester Pride went into administration and nobody got paid.

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Oh, okay. I did see something online and didn't make the connection. Sorry to hear that.

It's a bit of a disaster.

Obviously, being in the UK, you're closest to Ibiza as well. And have you managed to get over?

I went over in August for a gig at Eden, which is one of my favourite clubs in the whole wide world. It was amazing. I'd previously gone over in 2024. I DJ'd Ibiza Pride on San Antonio Beach. So I've been over there a few times.
I also did WOM (Word of Mouth) Radio Cafe, which is on the other side of the island and that was just a really cool sunset set. Did the last previous two years, and then 2025 I spent 2 ½  weeks staying over there and trying to connect with people and build relationships. Ideally that would be a perfect place for me to call home and my intention, when I get back later this year, is that I'll spend some more time there and do the same. So yeah, love it.

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Fantastic. So, you mentioned you're heading back to Australia next week for six months.

4 ½ - 5 months. For a bit of a reset.

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How’s it been over the last 6 months? Anything pertinent you'd like to say before I ask you more questions? Where would you like to start?

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It's been a challenge and I think the challenge has been around building connections here. I've tried to establish relationships with bookers, promoters and other DJs. I don't know if it's an intimidation thing. I don't know if it's just a lack of opportunity. I don't know if people are gatekeeping. I’ve found it really difficult to be able to get considered in the scene. I'd done a few open decks at local venues. The interest was there and then the follow through never came.

I've been really fortunate and been able to DJ a few times at Bier and Twist and that has been awesome. I've really loved the venue, the bar staff, the management there. They're all fantastic and I'm really grateful that I've been able to do some sets there. But as a whole, it's just been really tricky for people to even respond to enquiries or to help guide me in the right direction. I'm leaving here a little bit disappointed and wishing things were slightly different. I haven't been able to figure out the reason why or whether it's just oversaturated by DJs. I'm not really sure.

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What do you think of the local scene?

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I had high hopes for LA1 (local venue) and I don't know what's happened there and I thought that maybe that might help boost more exposure. I wonder whether part of the challenge is people coming into the city and having access through public transport. It's so close but yet so far away. The university, having a student city, can have its own challenges as well. When the students aren't in town, there's not a lot going on or it's pretty limiting. I think that perhaps the city relies maybe too heavily on student life to create a scene. But in saying that, there's some amazing events that go on throughout the summer. Morecambe Music Festival is probably one of the highlights of my time here. There are some great DJs doing some really great things. Kanteena have done some great things, but it's tricky. It's few and far between as well. Like I said, it's almost like gatekept by certain DJs who want to control everything.

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It's great to hear you had a good experience with Morecambe Music Festival.

 

I think it was just more not knowing where to turn. You'd ask the questions but not get much of a response or it would be quite vague. I think that was probably one of the main challenges I had was not really getting much out of people.

I feel like electronic music is so heavily ingrained in UK culture that it doesn't make sense not to include it into events and festivals. It surprises me that there's not a lot here and there's so much opportunity for it as well. One of my first weekends, I arrived in the UK and I went down to Ludlow to watch Faithless. That sort of stuff can happen here. Ludlow is not even a city. It's just looking at different opportunities. And yes, it's Faithless and yes, there's a lot of money behind that, but there's opportunity if people are willing to explore and get a little bit uncomfortable.

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Have you found any opportunities? What have been the benefits of coming here?

Being in Lancaster or just in the UK?

 

We'll focus on this area.

Yeah, let me think about that one. I'll answer it (later).

 

What would have liked to have encounter or experience? What do you think could help to improve the scene and help it to thrive locally?

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One thing that I think Manchester does really well, although I haven't had the chance to explore it myself, is establishing DJ collectives. There's enough DJs here to be able to do that and to help build a sense of community for up and coming artists and DJs. It may be just sitting around a bar and having a drink and sharing knowledge and that sort of thing. And I do wonder whether the scene as a whole, and this is not isolated to Lancaster or the UK or Australia, I think we have a tendency to be quite protective of our knowledge and we're not necessarily willing to share that. I think that limits us, our ability to grow ourselves, but also as a community to advocate for ourselves, for more opportunity, for dance music, for more nights, for more clubs, for more festivals, all that sort of thing. You've got such a huge a volume of students here and no doubt some of them are wanting to explore this as, not necessarily a career path, but as a hobby or as a part-time job while they're studying. So there is already a group, but they gatekeep and hold on to the information with a lack of want to be able to share that in a broader sense. So the one thing would be establishing DJ collectives that get to share knowledge and build a sense of community here.

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From a venue perspective, I understand from a business perspective around return of investment. I come from a business background, so I'm always thinking that way as well. But what's doing really well in some of the major cities is cafe pop-ups and pizza shop pop-ups, and stuff like that. Trying not to pigeonhole the scene as just being in a club or just being in a bar, but looking outside of what is standard. Again, it's about community and it's about connecting with the broader city and reaching out to Manchester and getting that reach as well. Transport's a major issue here in the UK, both from a cost thing and also an accessibility thing. You're always going to be limited with the resources that you do have, but it's thinking outside the box and being a little bit more experimental, which is what music is.

 

Absolutely. When times are difficult, either culturally or financially, or that's when the creative solutions come to the fore. Dance music's really good at that historically. It’s just getting the energy flowing almost, isn't it?

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I've spent the majority of my time in Morecambe rather than Lancaster and It has the potential for such beauty for the town that thinking outside the box is going to benefit the town a little bit more. And it's stuff like those pop-ups. In Melbourne, when Fat Boy Slim at the start of the year was touring Australia and he did a pop-up in a chippy. It’s little things like that. Sam Divine did a pop-up in a pizza shop in Sydney a few weeks ago. They're quirky, they're different, they get people talking. In the world of social media, that's where we have to start looking and not just focus heavily on just a club night. Sometimes it's just the little quirky stuff that creates the memories as well.

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Absolutely. Yeah, really good point. Have you noticed a difference between Lancaster and Morecambe because they're very different places?

 

I would be really worried that I would offend people from Morecambe. There's so much potential. That's all I'm going to say. There's so much potential. It's a bit of a wasted opportunity sometimes, I think.

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What do you think are the opportunities?

 

The best weekend I've had in Morecambe was the Morecambe Music Festival because it was alive. Everybody was out. There was such energy in the town. I've not seen it like that for the remainder of the summer.

I had that first weekend and it was phenomenal and thought, “oh, this is going to be great”. And then as I've continued to live there, it's just been... “Wow”.

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It's been a difficult year actually because Morecambe's quite known for its festivals and the Vintage Festival is another huge weekend, usually at the beginning of September. That's been a long-standing, really successful weekend and it was such a shame when they said they weren’t able to do it. That did actually feature DJs quite heavily with quite diverse music from across the decades. I'm gutted you didn't get a chance to experience that as well.

 

It'd be interesting to see what happens with the Eden Project, whether that changes the dynamic a little bit.

I think as a visitor to the town, I probably don't get so engrossed in the politics and the understanding of how everything works as well. I just see it and think, “oh yeah, it's an easy fix”, but it probably isn't.

 

I'll bring it back to where you are now and how you're feeling about the next stage, going back to Australia and your thoughts about coming back. I don't know what you want to share about that?

 

Yeah sure. I may not have sounded overly positive about my experience here in the UK. I feel like I've found a partial home. I was saying to my friends over the weekend that the idea of returning back to Australia after having spent almost six months here just feels really foreign to me. I worry that I'm just not going to feel as connected when I go back. And even though it's only short term to visit family and reset a little bit, I am going to miss being here. My intention is to come back and try again. It might look a little bit differently and I'll certainly take some of the lessons that I've learned and review my plan and strategy. But overall, I'm actually feeling pretty heavy about it and quite sad. Over the Christmas period, I really struggled with the grief that I was carrying and the sadness of not only leaving but also feeling like the last six months were a waste and having made mistakes or did I fail or, you know, all that imposter syndrome stuff that we tend to experience. But yeah, I'm pretty gutted to be honest. I don't want to go.

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But your plan’s to come back?

 

My intention is to come back. But it's a very expensive country to live in. The Australian dollar doesn't fare very well. So there's also that.

 

Any hopes for the next UK phase?

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I think my plan is really just to focus on Europe at the moment, try and leverage off my European citizenship. UK will always be part of that vision, but it won't be the primary focus. Whereas I've probably had it flipped the other way this time around. Challenges with visas and residencies just makes it a little bit more tricky. The scene here is fantastic. I can't fault that in terms of what's available for dance music. I'm hoping that I get to play a part in that in the future as well. I've got something to offer and it would just be amazing if I could be part of that.

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Is there anything else that you haven't said that you think is important?

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Like I said, I may not have been overly positive about my experience, but overall, the UK has such a strong dance scene. It's not going anywhere anytime soon and that's amazing. I wish Australia had even half as much available.

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Thank you so much for your perspectives and your honesty about your experiences. And I'm sure that lots of that will help us to reflect as local people and some of the opportunities into the mix of this project. And hopefully at the end of this project, there might be opportunities to connect and to have events and discuss collectives and pop-ups. They’re great, solid ideas and easily implementable with the right people driving it.

Thanks so much.